i like to call the big three. medicare, medicaid and social security. in the short material, either deal will probably be enough. really interesting this afternoon, when i was talking to an investor who had met with the ratings agency at standard & poors talking about the downgrade. could it raise interest rates the same way a potential default could. they said the boehner plan probably wouldn't hit the hurried tol prevent a downgrade. even if that was reached, you could still get a downgrade. it is unsure whether that would happen. the reid plan, even though a lot of the parts of that are seen by many as gimmicks, probably would pass that hurdle and you wouldn't get that immediate downgrade. that's an interesting distinction. >> stand by for a moment. i want to bring back kate and jessica. there is a harry reid plan and a john boehner plan. given the stakes involved, why not have these two gentlemen sit down together and sort of reach a compromise? i'll meet you halfway here. you meet me halfway there. let's get